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Old 12-25-2008, 10:46 PM
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having huge problems with my SV4000

Not sure what the problem is exactlly but i will explain the symtoms the best i can. The problem started with the last ECM on or about Dec 13 my signal strenght and quality started to drop so we thought it was our switches so we changed them both. Then we thought that maybe the storm might have moved the dish a bit so we tried to realign it and lost the signal completely and can't get it back. We have replaced both switches, both LNB's. When we turn on the recievers to go to the Dish settings to see if we can get a signal the strength is around 12 but the quality won't come in no matter where we move the dish. Could this be a problem with the reciever it's self??

Can anyone help please i just want my 110 119 back up
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Default Setting up 110 and 119 on Sonicview 4000

You need to go into set up and make sure you have your ports set right, and that you have the right lnb type picked and that if your scanning 119 make sure your tp freq. is set at 12239, not the factory default setting that may be at 12224. If your still not getting a signal then your dish sounds like it is not homed in right. You need to start with 119 and home it in first one long cable hooked up from lnb to receiver and when you get good S & Q on that bird, then unhook that lnb and hook the cable to 110 lnb and see if you have signal first, because a lot of times when 119 is homed in good, you will pick up 110 and only have to move dish just a little bit. Make sure you have receiver off when ever you are hooking up and unhooking dish from lnb's. Do not use switch when homing in birds, put switch in line after birds are homed in. Make sure what ever ports you are using on one switch match the ports you are using on the other switch, so if you have 110 on port 1 on one switch make sure it is on port 1 on the other switch as well, and so on. After you recheck your birds and see if you can home them in better and if there is still a problem, you may want to make sure your coax cable is ok from outside into receiver. Let us know.
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I don't know if you have an old DTV, DN or even BEV receiver. That's the easiest way to lock in the birds with the original receiver and it will also tell you if something is wrong with your Fta receiver. If you don't have one try to see if one of your friends or family would borrow you one. Other then that you will just have to find the Sat's with your Fta receiver. Good luck and let us know if you need more help.
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Ok today i replaced all my coax ran a straight cable from the LNB to the reciever to home in on birds. Hooked up new switch to one reciever and got 99Q and 67S on 119 but when i go to 110 i only get 45Q and 60S i have tried to change the TP to 12239 but it keeps going back to 12224 for some reason but 119 stays at 12239. When i do manually change 110 tp to 12239 i get 99Q 67S but when i exit that screen it resets back to 12224. That reciever is working fine now considering the rain and clouds outside. Now when i hook up the other reciever to it's switch and turn it on it seems to interfear with the other reciever somehow it is causing it to lose it's Q a bit is this possible or does is sound like the switch is bad?
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Hiya rockygirl,


Maybe this could be ur issue read this and let us know if it help explain some of ur problem...


Erratic behavior of switching, receivers, or the battling of LNBs for master control of channel selection, can be caused by grounding issues.

Grounding:
In an electrical system, ground loop refers to a current, generally unwanted, in a conductor connecting two points that are supposed to be at the same potential, that is, ground, but are actually at different potentials. Ground loops can be detrimental to the intended operation of the system.

Low current wiring is particularly susceptible to ground loops. If two pieces of audio equipment are plugged into different power outlets, there will often be a difference in their respective ground potentials. If a signal is passed from one to the other via an unbalanced connection, this potential difference causes a spurious current to flow through the cables.

How to properly ground your system:

1. Attach the grounding block(s) where all cables can be attached, so grounding point will be common for all the receivers in your system. You may have to use anchors, togglers, or wood screws depending on the surface on which you are mounting the grounding block.

2. Route the coaxial cable and ground wire to the grounding block. If the ground wire is not isolated then ceramic isolators should be used to route it. Different reference grounds to different LNBs, switches, and receivers in the sytem, can be accommodated by tying these references to a common point (in plain English: use a common ground for all your devices).

3. Make a 3"- 5" drip loop using cable clips at the grounding block. This will prevent water from running into the connection at the grounding block.

4. Secure the ground wire to the grounding block with the screw.

5. Route the grounding wire from the grounding block to the central building ground, and connect to the central building ground or service pole.
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and as far as 119 should be on TP 12239 , ive read elsewhere that as long as you put in 12239 then hit exit it should ask to save and you say yes and it mite still say 12224 but it suposely it's saved

And 110 is 12224


I'm not real sure, but mine box is the same as you say.
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On 119 it will always go back to default TP freq 12224 but you change it to TP freq to 12239 to make sure your locked in on 119 when setting up that sat.When you scan 119 it will start at 12224 but this is ok for it will scan all TP's anyway.
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Hiya rockygirl,


Maybe this could be ur issue read this and let us know if it help explain some of ur problem...


Erratic behavior of switching, receivers, or the battling of LNBs for master control of channel selection, can be caused by grounding issues.

Grounding:
In an electrical system, ground loop refers to a current, generally unwanted, in a conductor connecting two points that are supposed to be at the same potential, that is, ground, but are actually at different potentials. Ground loops can be detrimental to the intended operation of the system.

Low current wiring is particularly susceptible to ground loops. If two pieces of audio equipment are plugged into different power outlets, there will often be a difference in their respective ground potentials. If a signal is passed from one to the other via an unbalanced connection, this potential difference causes a spurious current to flow through the cables.

How to properly ground your system:

1. Attach the grounding block(s) where all cables can be attached, so grounding point will be common for all the receivers in your system. You may have to use anchors, togglers, or wood screws depending on the surface on which you are mounting the grounding block.

2. Route the coaxial cable and ground wire to the grounding block. If the ground wire is not isolated then ceramic isolators should be used to route it. Different reference grounds to different LNBs, switches, and receivers in the sytem, can be accommodated by tying these references to a common point (in plain English: use a common ground for all your devices).

3. Make a 3"- 5" drip loop using cable clips at the grounding block. This will prevent water from running into the connection at the grounding block.

4. Secure the ground wire to the grounding block with the screw.

5. Route the grounding wire from the grounding block to the central building ground, and connect to the central building ground or service pole.
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and as far as 119 should be on TP 12239 , ive read elsewhere that as long as you put in 12239 then hit exit it should ask to save and you say yes and it mite still say 12224 but it suposely it's saved

And 110 is 12224


I'm not real sure, but mine box is the same as you say.

Do you know where i can see a picture of this so i can better think about how to do it. thanks
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I took your advice and got grounding blocks my husband ran the ground from the dish to an outlet in the garage hooked up the blocks by running the cables into the block than into the switch than from the switch to the recievers. We had 70S and 99Q befor running the grounds and after running the ground blocks a snow storm has come in and we have nothing complete 0S and 0Q could we have blown something by grounding in the wrong spot in the garage or is it possible that the storm is preventing something from coming through. Last winter we never had a problem at all.
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Hiya rockygirl,

well shit I really dont know what to tell ya.. what happens if you take the ground back off ?

check ur dish is it full of snow?
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