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Old 06-28-2009, 04:41 PM
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Question How safe is IKS ?

What will prevent the sat company from finding me if they want to
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Old 06-28-2009, 04:47 PM
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Default IKS Explained - Risky or Not? You Decide

There is lot of rumors going on if IKS is secured. Well in short it is - and then it is not. Just to give you a few points on security with IKS:

1) IKS runs on a centralized server that is a share point to servers which relay on this server. Your box is connecting too relays not the IKS Server.

2) IKS servers require UDP connection, not TCP. You can think of UDP as more secure, but the real difference is that UDP packets travel one way (request is sent from the receiver and then fullfilled by the server but there is no guarantee on data delivery of the packet from the server, meaning that the server drops the link with requestor as soon as it gets it - it may deliver it later on however). The relay - is really a relay in UDP sense - (requests can be made to one server but another server may fullfill it). Since there is no constant connection being open it is almost impossible to catch the very small (tidy) request and data travel from boxes to IKS.

3) IKS Servers accept only connections that have a receiver ID attached to the data package. No request from PC or other device can be made - this really gives much trouble in identifying what the content is of the IKS package or intercepting it. I am not sure if the package itself is being encrypted somehow - but it will be easy to do if it isn't. With encrypted packages, even if someone intercepts it - that interception would become useless.

4) In order for the providers to hunt you down they will need to know what servers that nFusion boxes are connecting too. To find out, they will have to intercept the traffic from the centralized server which is located off-shore (but hard to do explained before). I could not locate the servers by looking at the routers access logs - I can only find the servers it is connecting too --- and surprisingly I saw many different connections (rotating relays) --- which gives me positive vibes about IKS.

5) All the providers can do is see that your connection is making some request for data that is being transfered from a server and has been identified as suspicious - but before they can even take any action upon it - the new server can be re-set and there you go, another round of finding it again will be needed. This is time consuming and very very tidious and an expensive task (not that the providers cant afford it). Even if the provider proves that the traffic from your internet connection is suspicious - they can not prove that it came from your requests and your receiver (they cant trace back anything beyond your router/modem).

6) "Dave" did go to after the small people on the first occasion of IKS (more then 10 years ago -- ohhh yes do not be surprised IKS is nothing new --- it has been used back in Dave days when a computer was needed that will serve already descrambled packages to the receiver using waffer boards or card emulators) - but "Dave" had to physically prove that this was happening from people trying this (hardware needed to make this function) - unlike today (no additional hardware is needed - so hard to tell if you are really doing anything wrong).

The final decision is always up to you to make. I do not want to sound encouraging or disapointing - use your own judgment - do lots of reading.

IKS doesn't mean you won't go down, it just means that you can come back up much faster.

If your hooked up to the net with your nfusion and you come home and turn your box on it will tell you if there is any new updates and gives you the option to update your box with the click of the remote button.

If your watching TV on stand alone (emu ON) and it goes down you simply click menu + user settings + emu off and IKS will kick in when you exit to TV.

99.9% of the time its IKS all the way.

I don't worry about anyone getting my IP address from the nfusion iks server as it does not collect anything other than an error log saying what failed.

Most have not noticed that IKS and Files are on 2 different servers and are ported to 1 that you are connected to.
That should be enough for people to guess there is more than 1 server at work here. I think last count there were 5 ported thru a chain across the web to 1 point of access. That point of access can be changed with a click of a button. So what if someone gets the main click boom somewhere else we go.

Anyone that wants to can easily run a proxy on your system and your bouncing around the world anyways.

Now to the whole sending keys things. The iks does not at anytime send keys to your box.(Its illegal) It does how ever send data to your box so your box knows what to do to get itself going. Kind of like A.I coding. No not any of the pyro team will explain that part for a good reason. Why give up a trade secret. I hope this helps some of you out with what your wanting to know.
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I am waiting for my I hub for the sv360 premier and was wondering how I would go about setting up a proxy server
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Thanks Zero Gravity that help.Im steel trying to setup a 36" dish with a linear LNB and stick to True FTA .
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I am waiting for my I hub for the sv360 premier and was wondering how I would go about setting up a proxy server
That is one problem that sonicview will need to fix. You can't setup a proxy with sonicview. The only way to hide your IP is if you use cable hack, I think that sonicview team got a secure server but better be safe than sorry.

Here is some info about IP address and how it works:


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Thanks Zero Gravity that help.Im steel trying to setup a 36" dish with a linear LNB and stick to True FTA .
You are welcome waterat1, true FTA is great backup, works all the time and gives you an excuse why you own an fta receiver.
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Does the IKS work on sonicview 4000?
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Are ther any receivers that aren't down right now?
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Default We will let you know when we hear :)

lpn1234 not yet, hopefully sonicview will bring out a Ihub for that receiver, when we hear we will post the info




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Does the IKS work on sonicview 4000?
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Default Hope this helps :)

the only ones up are on IKS, such as nfusion,sonicview,Kbox,CNX to name a few. Not all receivers in the makes above have every brand up, such as nova from nfusion or 1000/4000 from sonicview and mini/Duo/Trio from CNX. Hope this helps



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Conaxsat Duo(&hub), Limesat Ultra

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